Season 5 · Episode 6
Photographer and artist · Andy Warhol's best friend and travelling companion
Released 23 Jul 2025 · 47:17 on WOW and as a podcast
Every name, club, book, song, night and look from the interview - 122 references and 310 mentions in this episode. From a Corvair ride into Hollywood to Tennessee Williams's lost typewriter, Tony Perkins on the Riviera and ten years at Andy's side - Andy in drag included. Wow!
White linen jacket over a navy-and-white striped tee, chunky black glasses, swept silver hair and grey stubble
A softly blurred room behind him
Swimwear
Grace Jones and Dolph Lundgren among the sunbathers
Makos's best friend and travel companion for ten years; posed in drag for Makos's Altered Image portraits
FashionStarted as a fashion illustrator
Heard as “Andy / Rawhal / Warhol / Woolhill”
The city itself: where Makos moved from California and met Warhol
Where Makos spent the early 70s before New York; he still sees old friends there
Heard as “LA / Los Angeles”
Makos spent a weekend with him and got tips - not an apprenticeship, whatever journalists say
FashionFashion photographer
Heard as “Man Ray / Manray / Menray / Monrey”
Makos says he dated him for four or five years; travelled with him to Paris and the south of France
Heard as “Tony / Tony Perkins”
Co-host; joins from the Drag Race set in Pacoima
Heard as “Barbado / Randy”
Makos says he carried his typewriter to San Francisco, lost it, and shut his dog Madam in a closet
Heard as “Tennessee”
1970s sunbathing and cruising on the West Side piers
FashionSunbathing culture
Heard as “piers”
His book Holy Terror tells another version of how he met Makos
FashionInterview magazine editor
Heard as “Bob / Colicello”
Host; reads Warhol's diary praise of Makos and asks for his personal Andy. Links to his own Night Fever episode
FashionClub Kid famous for his looks
Heard as “James”
Fenton and Randy's company; their gallery space could host a Makos party
Heard as “World of Wonder / wild building / wow building”
The guest: photographer and artist, Warhol's travelling companion from 1976 to 1986. Links to his Night Fever episode
FashionPhotographer of fashion, nightlife and the Warhol circle
Heard as “Chris / Macos / Monkos”
Makos had just spent three weeks there, from Rome to Paris; he often travelled there with Warhol
Makos grew up in El Monte and Southern California, at a Catholic high school
Teenage Makos drove his Corvair towards Hollywood; WOW's building is in the heart of it
As Makos tells it, someone tried to set young Makos up with him in Hollywood
Heard as “Roddy McDowell / Ronnie McDowell”
Writer friend of Tennessee Williams who shepherded Makos around New York
Heard as “Dawson Rader / Donson Rader / dots and radar”
Makos's story of the trip with Tennessee, the lost typewriter and the dog in the closet
Where Makos lives, a walk from the piers
As Makos tells it, hooked up with Warhol and Liza - the confluence of art, fashion and music
FashionFashion designer
Where, Makos says, he went in on Tony Perkins's arm in cutoffs
Heard as “Negres”
Part of the same kinky-tour crowd, as Makos tells it
FashionArt collector
Heard as “Nearcos / Niarcos”
His romanticised male nudes, compared with Makos's
FashionFashion photographer for Abercrombie and GQ
Heard as “Bruce”
His sexualised nudes, compared with Makos's
FashionPhotographer
Heard as “Maplethorpe”
Co-host; already on Makos's mailing list
Heard as “Fenton”
Makos was an Interview superstar; James loved his recent interview
FashionFashion and culture magazine
Heard as “Interview Magazine / interview magazine”
Roddy McDowall's pal in the Hollywood story
Part of the literary circle Makos first fell into
Heard as “Gorby Dahl / Gourbridal”
Where Tennessee Williams stayed and wrote - aka the 'Easy Lay'
Heard as “Easy Lay / Hotel Elysee”
Photographed at the piers with his boyfriend Juan; part of the art scene Makos preferred
FashionPop Shop T-shirts
Grace Jones's boyfriend, sunbathing at the piers
Grace Jones and Dolph Lundgren among the sunbathers
FashionSwimwear
Heard as “sunbathing”
Tony Perkins's arm charm at the Negresco, as Makos tells it
FashionCowboy boots and short Levi's
Heard as “cowboy boots”
Makos photographed him at a birthday party just before he was killed
Heard as “Pasolini”
Looking at it doesn't mean you studied architecture
Heard as “Eiffel / Evil Tower”
Hustler club on 52nd Street; James cites the Warhol Diaries on Makos taking Andy and Halston there
Part of the crowd who, Makos says, wanted to do kinky things in New York
FashionSocialite and Interview staffer
West Village show-tunes piano bar
His Rrose Sélavy collaboration with Man Ray inspired Makos's pictures of Andy in drag
Heard as “Duchamp”
Hosted dinners at the Plaza with exquisite drag queens
FashionSurrealist with fashion collaborations
Heard as “Dali”
Drag Race as a modern surrealist movement, in Makos's view
FashionDrag icon
Shooting in Pacoima; surrealism in Makos's eyes
Heard as “drag queens in a room / shooting the show”
Recent exhibition with Daniel Cooney Fine Art
Makos's photo memoir of Andy
Heard as “personal photographic memoir”
Makos book James loves the title of
FashionLederhosen
Heard as “Liederhosen”
Fenton says he, Randy and James were East Village kids in the 80s when Makos was already a legend
Where the 'crazy things' were going on
His look for his first night in Hollywood
FashionWhite Levi's
Heard as “white Levi”
Lance's sister; Makos took her to the Santa Barbara High School prom and they are still in touch
Heard as “Michelle Laud”
A stop on the Mustang road trip east
His first New York hotel - Makos says he left without paying
Heard as “Wellington”
How he looked checking into the Wellington
FashionPreppy
Heard as “preppy look”
His first rented room in New York
Makos compares how Tennessee turned people into characters to her songs
The hotel with the enormous closets
Heard as “Fairmount”
Makos says he has pictures driving across it in the 'borrowed' car
Heard as “Golden Gate”
Founder of Circus magazine who hired Makos as a filer, then photo editor
Makos has pictures of him at the piers
FashionGay style icon in skin-tight self-made clothes
Heard as “Peter Boleyn”
Keith Haring's boyfriend, photographed at the piers
Heard as “Juan”
Makos photographed her sunbathing at the piers while dating Dolph Lundgren
FashionStyle icon
The punk music side of the art crowd
FashionPunk and new wave style icon
Emerged on the art scene alongside Keith Haring
FashionArtist known for customised fashion
Tony Perkins's partner; Makos tells the story of their Tuesday-night game
FashionDancer
Shirtless in a Paris hotel room, in a Makos picture
FashionCollar
Heard as “dog collar”
Sexy Parisians in real clothes, not gym wear
FashionFitness meets style
Heard as “muscle culture”
Man Ray's dealer and Warhol's Italian dealer, who took Makos under his wing
Heard as “Ansumino”
Paris club Makos went to
FashionFashion crowd hangout
Heard as “clubs set”
Where an old S&M club Makos recalls used to be - now a Mexican restaurant
Its skit about West Village lines
Makos's Altered Image portraits, after Duchamp and Man Ray
FashionWigs and make-up
Heard as “in drag”
Friend for 'a thousand years' - what they talk about stays between them
FashionFashion designer
Makos suggests looking at surrealist-era pictures from London, Paris or Berlin
One of the creatures of Warhol's world
FashionWarhol superstar style
One of the creatures of Warhol's world
FashionWarhol superstar style
Heard as “Hollywood Lawn”
Had her own personal Andy
Gallery behind the Santa Fe exhibition
Heard as “Daniel Cooney”
Hosted a cocktail party for Makos at the Chateau Marmont
Cocktail party in one of its suites
Makos says he was in Florida and his boyfriend took Andy to the hospital
Heard as “passed away so suddenly”
Warhol said his mum went to Bloomingdale's and never came home
FashionDepartment store
Heard as “Bloomingdale”
A softly blurred room behind him
FashionWhite linen jacket over a navy-and-white striped tee, chunky black glasses, swept silver hair and grey stubble
His home library with packed bookshelves, a black mic and the Buster Crabbe poster
FashionSage-green tie-neck blouse and lilac-grey patterned glasses; shaved head
A bedroom with amber wooden shutters, dark rose-print wallpaper and an orange pillow
FashionPale blue-and-white striped tee and thin wire glasses
An office with a big window and a corkboard of pinned papers
FashionBlack cap, black glasses and a blue plaid flannel shirt
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